Gnabry outshines Ryo as Arsenal U21s defeat West Brom


Barclays Under-21 Premier League- Game 3

Arsenal 1 (Gnabry 34) West Bromwich Albion 0

By Jeorge Bird @ Emirates Stadium

Photo by Kieran Clarke

Photo by Kieran Clarke

Ryo Miyaichi may be two years older than Serge Gnabry, but, on the evidence of tonight’s U21 Premier League encounter with West Bromwich Albion in front of over 2000 supporters at Emirates Stadium, it is the young German who is closest to making an impression in the senior side.

Indeed Gnabry scored the goal that proved to be the difference between the two sides, with the Germany U19 international latching onto Isaac Hayden’s long pass and volleying emphatically past Jack Rose in the 34th minute. Ryo, in contrast, looked rather lost, with the winger squandering an inviting opportunity from point blank range in the opening stages. It is true that he is still working his way back to fitness following injury, but, at this moment in time, Gnabry certainly seems the most likely to make an impression at a higher level.

The pair were joined in the side this evening by another member of the first-team squad in Emmanuel Frimpong, who was largely impressive as he completed 75 minutes on his first outing at any level this campaign. There were also further opportunities to impress for trialists Matthew Macey, a goalkeeper from Bristol Rovers, and Semi Ajayi, a centre-back who was most recently with Charlton Athletic. Both players came through their latest audition well, with Macey in particular catching the eye with some vital saves late on.

Macey

Bellerin-Ajayi-Hayden-Boateng

Frimpong-Olsson

Ryo-Eisfeld-Gnabry

Akpom

subs: Iwobi (for Ryo, 62), Maitland-Niles (for Gnabry, 62), Kamara (for Frimpong, 74). Not used: Iliev, Siemann, Jeffrey.

West Brom were able to call upon the experience of Zoltan Gera, whilst they handed a start up front to Morgan Ferrier, who came through Arsenal’s Hale End academy but was unable to earn a scholarship deal with the club.

Having accrued four points from their opening two fixtures this season Arsenal were in flamboyant mood immediately from the kick-off, with Gnabry doing superbly to find Ryo in space, but the Japanese winger somehow managed to direct his effort off target when it appeared far easier to score.

Macey was then called into action for the first time, with the goalkeeper having to keep out a header from Kemar Roofe, but the majority of the action was occurring at the other end, with Gnabry coming close twice in quick succession before later shooting just wide after latching onto Ryo’s cross.

Kristoffer Olsson, who again captained the side, then delivered a superb cross into the area, but Ajayi, who scored against Blackburn Rovers last time out, couldn’t direct his header on target this time around.

Arsenal continued to crank up the pressure, with Hayden, who continued to push forward even though he was deployed at centre-back, finding Chuba Akpom, but the striker shot straight at Rose.

The momentum of the game was then heavily disrupted by a lengthy stoppage after West Brom left-back Bradley Garmston required treatment following a collision with Hector Bellerin. He was eventually replaced by Jordan Francis, with the delay forcing nine minutes of stoppage time at the end of the first-half.

Before that, however, Arsenal would take the lead, with Hayden playing another superb, searching ball out from the back which fell invitingly for Gnabry. The former Stuttgart player controlled it well and fired home a well-struck effort to open both the scoring and his account for the campaign.

Now officially part of the first-team squad, Gnabry is surely not too far away from adding to his four senior appearances for the club. Hayden nearly doubled the advantage himself not too long afterwards, with the 18 year old directing his diving header just wide of the target, whilst Gnabry and Akpom also came close with further efforts before the interval.

Photo by Kieran Clarke

Photo by Kieran Clarke

Arsenal continued to dominate proceedings after the break, with Olsson doing well to drive forwards only to shoot well over prior to Frimpong, who has racked up over half a century of appearances for the club at reserve and youth level, seeing his shot repelled by Rose.

Akpom then headed over, but, at the other end, Macey was forced into an impressive save to preserve Arsenal’s lead. Steve Gatting then introduced Alex Iwobi and Ainsley Maitland-Niles for Ryo and Gnabry respectively, and the latter almost made an instant impact after receiving the ball from Ajayi, but Rose was equal to his shot.

Glen Kamara replaced the tiring Frimpong as the clock ticked on, but Macey then had to make another commendable save to deny West Brom an equaliser. The re-bound was eventually turned home, but, by that point, and much to Arsenal’s relief, the offside flag had already been raised.

West Brom, perhaps sensing some vulnerability in the Arsenal defence, went all out for an equaliser, with Olsson having to make a crucial clearance before substitute Alex Jones shot wide when he really should have scored.

Daniel Boateng, who was impressive as an unorthodox left-back, could have sealed Arsenal’s win late on but he directed his effort just wide following a mazy dribble. A 2-0 scoreline might have been a little harsh on West Brom, who put up a valiant fight, but the rather familiar result of 1-0 to the Arsenal seemed just about right on this occasion.

50 comments

  1. as an eighteen year old straight out of high school Ryo went to one of the top leagues in Europe and was arguably one of the best players. He went on loan at Bolton and was again very impressive considering it was his first taste of English football. Injuries last season seem to have made a major dent in his confidence. He needs games and if he can regain some of the form that prompted Feyernoord fans to nickname him “Ryodinho” then he could have a big future.

    1. I am sure if he goes back to psv he will be good again and many will say what a great player he is and will be great for Arsenal too. Thats because the Dutch league isn’t as tough and good as EPL and Arsenal. I saw many games when he was in PSV and never thought he would be an Arsenal player. When he played for Bolton I never thought he was that good again.

      I don’t see the link up play and football movement I want. I can’t see him be one of the big star for us one day. Gnabry on the other hand has seems to be great at link up play and show great movement and also lots and lots of vision. Basically showing everything and more Ryo isn’t and I highly doubt its because Ryo isn’t confidence enough. I just think he isn’t good enough for us.

      1. saying PSV once is a somewhat excusable offence. twice is not.With phrases like “link up play and football movement” i’m trying to take you seriously (and you’re begging for it) but i’m struggling to. How many teenagers get loaned out to PL sides? almost none. Even when he returned to Arsenal in the spring after his injury Roberto Martinez wanted to take him back if Wigan avoided relegation (Owen Coyle did too for Bolton). Ryo is 21 and the coaching staff has never once considered loaning him out to a side outside the top division. he’s a good player, a traditional wing type player, kinda like how Theo started out. He wasn’t that great of a passer of the ball either but he’s developed that immensely since he arrived. The kid has essentially missed an entire season due to injury, low confidence is bound to be an issue. he gets it back then he’ll prove why PL managers wanted him in their side and why Wenger chose not to send him back on loan.

      2. Its a difference being good enough for a bottom/championship team and to be good in the league and Arsenal. It has taken Walcott like 5 season to be good. ONLY this season has he looked like a player for us IMO.

        While you go by saying bottom team managers want him and he is 21 and young and all that… he can develop to a top class player… I simply cannot see that by skills. I see little vision and movement showing the class I see in others.

        I saw the PSV, Bolton and Wigan game. I can’t care less how old he is when I see little of what a class and really talented player look like. Also his injury problem is one more reason why he will have a hard time make it. You also have NO real fact if he lacks confidence, yet you say it like you know his feelings. He was also never in the Japan national team despite playing regularly for Bolton and PSV.

        The fact that both Bolton and Wigan had poor players doesn’t seems to be in consideration from you. Both are now in Championship and Coyle is now a Championship manager. Coyle wants him back.. in the team playing in championship. He will be on loan you will see that. The fact that we are short in numbers in the first team doesn’t seems to matter for you either because wenger obviously must think he is the new walcott right? What if he stay ONLY for emergency and fill out? I mean we need players for FAcup, carlingcup, late substitution when we need to rest players or are in desperation mode in a match, play ONE game in CL if we manage to qualify early. Its not like we have many wingers and players to go around with.

      3. PSV? Japan National football team? did you even read my response before you took to your keyboard to type this inane and nonsensical drivel? You just don’t seem to have any kind of understanding about the real world of football do you? I don’t even know where to begin. ONLY this season has Walcott developed into a top player? because his 21 goals last season was a complete fluke? to be a professional football player is an extremely difficult thing to do and for a young player to be playing in what is generally considered to be the best league in the world regardless of where that team is in the table is an extremely incredible feat. Go back and look at the rosters of the relegated teams last season. How many players in those teams were under the age of 23? wait a minute i need to save myself some unnecessary frustration…how old are you exactly?

      4. I don’t give a shit about how old you are when you play. He was not good enough for me and I didn’t see the amazing talent you seems to do. Look at the championship and tell me how many are 21 now? quite a few. Thats where he would have ended. He played in EPL. Was bad. Coyle and martinez wanted him back for a shit team. Thats what you are saying. They wanted him back to the championship. Arsenal don’t want to loan him there? Thats how I take it. Again we are short in numbers and will it be a surprise if 20y old Sanogo play in EPL for us? We got 1 proper striker at the moment. Zelalem and Gnabry was on the bench… amazing huh? How many first team stars did we have again when they was on the bench? not so many right?

        21 and in EPL sure good. Just not good enough for me. Being one of very selected few playing in EPL doesn’t mean jack shit to me when you play bad. Oh the manager wants you back for the team who got relegated…. amazing… well done now you are playing in a lower league with even worse players. When all our first team players are fit then lets see if Arsenal want to loan him out or let him play for U21. Lets see that.

        Lets get him back to PSV.

      5. i think you’re saying PSV just to piss me off now and I won’t even bother addressing it. FFS what percentage of your consumption of football is actually spent on trying to understand it as opposed to playing FIFA or FM manager. You can’t throw back a rhetorical question my way w/o the necessary facts. The Championship is a notoriously difficult league are players under 21 are rarely regulars in a XI. Both Martinez and Coyle wanted him back because they believed he had a big future in the game and at Arsenal. Here are some links if you need proof:

        http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/152078.html
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2294302/Roberto-Martinez-keen-Ryo-Miyaichi-Wigan-Athletic-loan-Arsenal-season.html

        let it be noted that Roberto Martinez is one of the most respected coaches in the PL who Barcelona saw fit to entrust one of their most exciting prospects with. I guess to you and your FM experience his two sense is useless. That blasse manner that you’re using to address this speaks volumes of your expertise. once again, how old are you?

      6. Jom, Ryo played for Feyenoord!!! Feyenoord!! Also, he is 20 not 21. While i’m not particularly interested in getting involved in fruitless internet arguments your belief that he played for PSV was really bugging me.

      7. They are the most respected but yet they got the boot. Martinez got the boot from Swansea and Wigan manage to go all the way to championship.

        Why don’t you understand that both wanted him back to a bad team? You just don’t want to understand that. Big future in the game and for Arsenal? Lets see how it turns out then lets see how right those managers had. How come he is not wanted by ALL premier league teams and for teams that are actually in the middle of the table?

        I can’t see the top class talent you are talking about. And by the way I am older than 23. Does it matter for you now? I am between 23-30. Lets see what you got to say about my age this time. Obviously its a big fucking thing for you. Wenger once said Randall had a big future and England should keep an eye on him… he is a nobody in the game. What happaned to JET and Lansbury? Where is Henderson? Where is Watt? All those players was playing at a young age in a high level for their age just like Ryo does.

        I am playing FM?? Its actually you who have no fucking clue what the fuck you are talking about. Saying he lost confidence when you have NO fucking clue about that. OHHHHH Wenger also said Bendtner had a big future and Roy Hodgeson said so too. He is just not good enough for us. In fact NONE of the top 4 sides wants him.

        So much for what respected managers think. and what young players do at a young age. I see very little vision and a lot of bad decision making when I watch Ryo. Is that FM for you? While all you have said is former managers want him back and he was good in Holland ohh without his injury he would have been the next Neymar by now right? Fuck off fucking FM prick.

      8. your anger and use of language doesn’t add any merit to you argument no matter how loud you think it sounds in your head. This isn’t a pub where your inane shouting can be drowned out by other people’s inane shouting and somehow justify you. When you right something down people actually have to read it, something you obviously don’t because if you did you would get a sense of just how ridiculous you sound. The fact that you’re between 23 and 30 just makes this all the more laughable. You’re older than I am. I was seriously hoping that you were a fourteen year old kid that way i could at least forgive you for being, well, a fourteen year old kid. As evidence of why Roberto Martinez is not a great manager you mention that he was sacked at Swansea years ago. An FA Cup, consistently keeping a club in the PL despite having the budget of a Championship team, and being sought after by the likes of Liverpool and Spurs i guess doesn’t reveal much. I’ll give you that argument. There’s no such thing as a bad team in the PL. There are teams with high budget and low budgets. That’s something that you don’t seem to understand. You manage to pull off a classic football rant job at the end there. Exaggerating and obscuring my points to make you sound like you know what you’re talking about. Did i mention anything about him being the next Neymar by now? did i mention anything about him possessing the same level of talent as one of the most talented players of his generation? i did neither. My point was simply this (and you completely missed it due to your rather perverse and irrational desire to not be wrong): The consensus amongst the people that have observed him, whose job it is to observe players constantly day in and day out, is that he has a bright future in the game. Yes, many players get this label and for various reasons fail to live up to it. Some have attitude problems, i.e. Randall, JET, Lansbury (although we shouldn’t rule him out yet) and some get wrecked by injuries, i.e Henderson, Watt. Anyone who has a cursory knowledge of athletes and what it takes to be an athlete understands that injuries especially long injuries don’t just take a physical toll but a mental one as well, athletes need to be borderline sociopathic and have an immense amount of confidence in their abilities, injuries can severely dent that confidence. So i return to my conclusion, if Ryo gets matches and a return to confidence then he has the potential to be a great player if he didn’t then he wouldn’t be at this club.

      9. Now when you said I am older than you it makes total sense to me. You are just young and have no clue thats where the FM talk came in. I understand no. After you saying you was younger than me I quit reading and started this text. You are too young and your logical thinking needs to be mature. You are simply too young for me to read anything you say again. Well done teenager.

        Everything I have brought up makes total sense. You on the other hand make same stupid argument like EPL managers want him back. Again Martinez got the boot from Swansea in Championship and Coyle manage to take his team to Championship too. And again what “respected” managers say doesn’t matter a fucking lot at this age unless you are actually proven good in a good team. Ryo was NOT playing regularly when he was fit for Wigan so stfu!

        And again you are too young for me. Obviously a 14 year old can think more logic than you do when you, when you think I am. Go back to your room. You came with an argument like… if you shout bla bla bla… except that I actually came with good examples stupid.

      10. that explains a lot. you don’t even read the full text before you start responding. if the rational conclusion drawn from this little interchange that we’ve just had is that you’re more logical than i am…you actually used the words bla bla bla…this conversation is over.

  2. I know you cannot always tell how Wenger really rates a player, but going by what he said, he thinks that Ryo CAN be an Arsenal player in the future, IF he overcomes his injury problems. That’s not coming from me, that came from the horse’s mouth about a year o so ago.

    Who’s to say that both cannot make it??? They have differing styles of play, and Gnabry is more versatile, so one could play on the wing, with the other playing more centrally.

    Jom, I know it’s sort of a mere technicality, but Ryo never played for PSV. I’m sure you must be aware of this now…Also he has one international appearance for Japan, in a friendly, I believe. I forget whom he played against though. That doesn’t mean much, but it appears he COULD be in the picture for the national squad, if he is fully fit.

    I actually saw quite a bit of good play from Ryo, in the clips I saw of him, when he was playing for Feyenoord.

    In conclusion, I think it’s just too early to write him off just yet. There is always a surprise player, who comes about every season. Maybe he’s the one??? Who knows???

    1. I think Gnabry is a lot better than him. I just don’t understand what people see in Ryo. There will be no surprise for me if he is on the bench all the time. Then he play week in week out for a bottom or middle EPL team for me. Thats still a LOOOOOOOOOONG way to go to play for Arsenal. Joel Campbell played week in and week out for Lorient, Real betis and will probably do so for olympiacos too. Its still a long way to go to success at Arsenal.

      yeah he is young but this is like his last chance to make it unless he sells a lot of shirt for us. Between Campbell and Ryo I would have taken Campbell. Gervinho was awesome for Lille and he didn’t quite make it at Arsenal. It takes a lot of talent to make it and also a lot of good physics. He is missing both for me. Keep an eye on Gnabry he is the next Chamberlain.

    1. When jom has a bee in his bonnet, he doesn’t need facts to force his argument. The funny thing is it took about 5 people on 10 occassions to point it out!!

      As for the debate who cares who is better at this stage. Fact is they both play for arsenal and along with the likes of eisfeld wellington campbell jeffrey iwobi maitland-niles ansah dawkins and raage are all vieying to eventually make the first team initially out wide but primarily in the 3 behind the main striker. With walcott chamberlain wilshire? rosicky ozil cazorla and podolski all ahead of them currently only the very best of them is going to force themselves ahead of one of those. Its gonna be an exciting scrap that’s for sure.

  3. One thing I have noticed from Ryo whenever he has played for us is that he fear to run on opposition players. I remember his time in Holland where he was dribbling past opposition players with trickery and much pace, but I don’t see that now. May be he is feared to get injured or he has be directed by the coaches to pass the ball more rather than running through opposition players.

    1. I have watched Ryo play many times both in Dutch league and EPL, I must admit he is a really talented kid for his age. Getting games without injuries, learning to handle pressure when playing at a top league, adapting to the physicality of EPL, …… and more.. Give this kid some time and space guys. He is a gunner no matter what. Let’s hope he fullfills his potential under Arsene. And then see..

  4. Ajayi was absolutely sublime at cb (watch out for this kid), his passing range was fantastic and cleaned up very well (best cb on the pitch by a mile).
    ryo seemed afraid to take on any player and gnabry looked his confident self, that makes you want to see him on the ball as much as possible

    1. Totally agree about ajayi. I was also impressed with macey and with both players standing at 6’4 and 6’6 respectively they could be monsters once fully developed. I say sign em both TODAY. I was also impressed with boateng sure he was playing out of position but I think he could form a really strong CB pairing with ajayi allowing hayden to move into DM where I think he is best. With bellerin and ormonde-ottewill (when he gets fit) that would be a really strong defence at this level and would allow yennaris and eisfeld to take the loans they desperately need. I think at the moment ryo needs to get his fitness levels up and then take a loan again, but I would keep.gnabry around as the youth champions league will be great experience filtered in with the cap1cup and the odd epl sub appearance.

  5. JB – do u know if ajayi and macey would be eligible for youth champions league if we signed them in time? Or are they too old?

    I take it we are no longer looking at bensebaini?

  6. It looks like Ajayi has signed up. Good news if the positive reports from last night are on the mark. Do you know much about the lad Jeorge?

  7. To be fair, while some of Jom’s arguments weren’t well presented, I think he has a point. There is a huge difference between the likes of Wigan and Bolton and Arsenal. Plus, many players that have starred in the Dutch leagues have failed in England (I know a few have made it too). Wilshere, by comparison, stood out when he played for Bolton at a very young age. Young players do have to be outstanding to make it at Arsenal and I too think Ryo will fall short.

  8. seems like Akpom trained with the first team today. With the lack of strikers in the first team, I won’t be surprised if he make the bench tomorrow

  9. Jom, you commented on so called “Bottom” teams or “weaker league”. You seem to forget that Arsenal had also lost to teams like that. Ryo, a 20 year-old boy came from Japan with different culture and playing environment. The facts that he was recruited by Wenger and wanted by English and Dutch top clubs show that must be something special in him. Have you heard of Shinji Ono? He played for Feyenoord for 5 seasons and
    in his first season, he helped Feyenoord win the 2002 UEFA Cup. Ryo, when fully developed will be more versatile than Ono. Ryo has improved a lot and needs games to get fully adapted to English football. Arsene knows it and is in the process of doing this. I do NOT like the title of this article. It shouldn’t be written this way on players from same team. Also you can’t judge a player on 1 game. Many Arsenal top players also have “got lost” in some matches. If have a way to bet with Jom, I would do that and see in 3 seasons how Ryo would do! Although I truly liked Walcott when he first joined Arsenal but he did not impress me until last season. It took Arsene a few years to bring the best out of an English boy, what would you think about a boy from Asia? Frankly speaking Alex has not been really impressive, yet, but we are all being patient with him. Why can’t we do that with Ryo?

    1. What Ryo has done is great coming to a new culture and actually play. But I don’t see the talent to make it all the way. Sure he can be a good middle EPL player… maybe. Ono was probably playing for a good team too. That team was exceptional. Ryo isn’t playing for an exceptional team. Thats the difference between Ryo and Ono. Wilshere and Sturridge was absolute class for Bolton and you clearly could see the talent right there. I did see that.

      Ryo was not as great. Kagawa came straight from Japan and played for an exceptional team and you could see the talent and the performance. Every week. He is NOTHING like Ryo other than they came from the same country. Kagawa is more compared to some of the very best talent in this world.

      OX came from a lower league team and did play straight away. He is playing regularly for a proven world class team and the full national team. He manage to kept Walcott out of favor in the national team and was starting for the national team. He is a world class talent.

      If Ryo is being good this season then I will change my mind but I can’t see that happen. Especially when Gnabry, Campbell and probably a new talent will come withing 2 years time.

  10. I have to disagree with Jom

    If you actually did watch him play like you claimed then you will know that at bolton right away he looked a class above the other players on the pitch. His strides were effortless and motions completely natural … that sort of stuff you cannot teach, it’s natural. He slowed down after because he was playing hurt and that’s when football experts like you go passing judgement without knowing anything

  11. Jom, you just have to argue to win, don’t you? I don’t know what you see but many would see the same as I do, Ryo is talented, and we don’t see anything much of Kagawa, who hardly played in 1st team. Ono played for Feyenoord so did Ryo and Feyenoord wanted him back for this new season. I don’t know what you meant by “exceptional” and which team is which team is not exceptional. Ryo did so well for Bolton, but you try to bury that. He was most of time injured during his stint with Wigan. When a player returns from long injury he usually takes time to get back, needless to say a young rookie. You criticised on Martinez, but most people would agree that he is a fairly good manager and that’s why he was selected by Everton to succeed Moyes to bring Everton further. You are 23-30. I am 63. I very certainly, have seen many more matches and players than you do. How many times more, I don’t know. Nobody should waste more time, in continuing this argument with you.

    1. No I don’t argue to win. I say what I think! Ryo play for feynoord but how good was that team when he was there? PLEASE TELL ME! I actually want to know how good that team was when he played for them. Where did they end up after the season? Ono played when they fucking won the Uefa cup as someone said! that is exceptional with exceptional players. Kagawa would have been in the starting 11 for Dortmund and they was in the final and the manager of Dortmund who took his unknown team to the fucking FINAL OF CL!

      Lets see if Martinez wants Ryo in Everton. He wanted him for Wigan AGAIN as a few have said… now lets see the SAME argument like YOU told me. I want to see Martinez want Ryo and Ryo PLAY for Everton. Lets see that. You won’t because he is NOT that good. A manager want another player is not working for me when you talk about talent. Its the performance that really matter for me.

      Its clearly most people here have no clue of what they talk about. As long as a player play he is good. Thats what most people say. 20 and play for a relegated team is obviously top class talent…..or not!

    1. Except it is not. Explain to me how the fuck OX play ahead of walcott when walcott was not injured. why don’t you try to watch the game next time mr 63 year old?

      1. Jom,
        I am quoting you regarding the Ox.
        [quote]He manage to kept Walcott out of favor in the national team and was starting for the national team.[/quote]
        I understand that you want to defend your point of view, but I think that this time you started spewing non-sense.
        Ryo is definitely a great prospect. Everybody except you seem to see that.
        After being taken out multiple times, Ryo will need time to come back at his best level. I think that physically he is ready, but mentally he is not. He does not try any of his tricks anymore. He looks afraid to engage his opponent in one to one situation. Losing that fearless attitude is making him average. Hopefully he will rediscover his samurai heart.
        Gnabry is very talented. But his main force is that he is stocky and cannot be easily pushed over the ball. Also he has a fearce shot. He has the same style of play than the Ox, without the Ox vision. In open game he can be very useful. However I am still to be convinced in very closed game when the opposition has 11 men behind the ball. Quite often in those situation he tries one dribble to many and lose the ball.
        We should see that in the next League Cup game at WestBromwich.

      2. So you are saying Walcott started ahead of OX in every game for the national team? Is that what you are saying? Because OX DID start ahead of Walcott and in my book that IS kept walcott out of favour. Remember Chamberlain just got into the national team compared to Walcott.

        I think Chamberlain is a much better player. When he is fit he will be a lot more useful to have in the team now when Özil can give him those balls. The fact that Chamberlain can plan in all positions compared to Walcott is a very strong argument to say Chamberlain is better.

        Gnabry got great vision too. Chamberlain vision is absolute top class but Gnabry link up well and he can shoot and pass. He will mature wont dribble through as much. Nothing to worry about.

        People seems to forget that when Ryo was fit he was not playing so much anyway for Wigan and Martinez. He got a few chances and he got injured.

        I also wonder where feynoord ended when Ryo was there. And lets see Martinez ask Ryo to come once again and lets see him play for Everon. THEN I will change my mind. As long as he is playing for a relegated team I will not be convince. Also the way he played was shit. Seems like people can’t see that.

  12. jom for the sake of everyone please be quite what you say has no evidence it is all clearly non fiction. Arghhh your so fustrating!!

  13. Personally I thought that Ryo did ok, as a teenager, in the Eredivisie for Feyenoord…

    Last season was pretty much a write-off due to injuries, but i’m sure I recall Martinez speaking well of him during his season long loan at Wigan.

    Not sure that Wenger would have him in the squad if Arsene thought he had no future at the club.

    I have to say that I have a high regard for both Ryo and Serge.

  14. Ryo and Gnabry are the future ,if they are at their best now then that is a bonus but for now they need to adapt to the game and be ready to take their chance when it arrives because there is a lot of injuries at the present so every arsenal supporter that wants them to be neymar CHILL OUT!!

    1. Jon, u clearly do not know what u are talking about mate. U are coming up with all sorts of opinions and trying to justify them as facts. Why are u trying to convince people of your opinion. Can’t u accept that other people don’t agree. Here’s the facts for u Jom, miyaichi is a gifted footballer who has been extremely unlucky with injuries. As proven with Wilshere and Ramsey recovering from serious injury takes a long time at the top level. U can’t just bounce back like some superhuman and start dominating games. the best players need injury free seasons, look at van p@#&*+, look at Ramsey now. Miyaichi is unfortunate because he is still young and learning and had bad injuries it could take him a long time to find his best level. I am a strong believer that u need to put a player of ability in a top team and see how they react, he could be good enough given the chance, run of games as could gnabry who knows!? We as fans should allow young players to develop rather than forcing these judgements so quickly

  15. in 2011, feb, ryo first played for feyenoord. that club was bottom.
    by the end of season, they finished 10th. Basically Ryo sparked them to get that 10th. scoring 3 goals n 5 assists.

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